william
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posted on 11-22-2002 at 19:08 |
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All these ladies on the internet look like models
All these ladies on the internet look like models. They can’t ALL be that beautiful. How do you know if they’re for real?
William G.
from Boise Id.
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Larry
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posted on 11-22-2002 at 19:30 |
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Picked the wrong girl
Looks like I totally picked the wrong girl. Now what?
Larry from San Francisco crying in his beer
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Kenny
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posted on 11-22-2002 at 19:34 |
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HELP!
I gave a tour company a deposit and then heard some bad things about that company. How can I get my money back. HELP!
Kenny from Spokane
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tbochene
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posted on 11-25-2002 at 17:23 |
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Hi William- Yeah I know what yo mean. When I first got started I thought the same thing. Truthfully most guys put too much imortance on the photo, and the bio information. The trick is just to mail a whole bunch of letters, maybe a hundred or so, and see what their answer is and how does the next picture look But most of what you need to know will be in that first letter. Good luck
Tony B.
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ken
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posted on 12-03-2002 at 19:40 |
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get you money back
If you used a credit card you can charge it back. Contact the tour company, a reputible company will refund your money as long as you do it at least 30 days before the tour. By the way who is the company?
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John
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posted on 12-03-2002 at 20:58 |
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Some simple things to watch out for
We have come up with a list of 10 ways that, if followed, will help protect you from unethical women and/or agencies. The following information is of a general nature, based on our experience and client comments, and is not intended to describe any one particular agency.
1. Use caution with sites/agencies that allow you to post your profile on-line and receive E-mails from apparently interested women, which you must then pay for in order to open. We have received numerous complaints about these types of services. Generally, the services typically work with many smaller Russian/Ukrainian agencies that are normally paid a fee for each E-mail that is opened, and each E-mail sent. Many of the complaining clients claim that the inherent problem with such sites is the built in motivation for the men to open as many letters as possible from the women, the more letters that are opened the more money that these smaller agencies will make. We have had complaints that agencies would send women’s letters to men, without the woman’s permission, simply to collect the extra commissions. In some cases the agency itself may simply be writing the letters and sending them out to hundreds of different men, hoping for responses. We suggest that, prior to ever using such a service, you call the main agency and ask what safeguards, if any, they have in place to assure you of the legitimacy of the letters and photos being sent from the smaller foreign agencies. You should also insist on the woman's personal contact information, i.e. home address and/or telephone number, after the very first contact so you are not forced to continue paying for each correspondence.
2. You should always beware of any unsolicited E-mails you receive, even if you have posted your profile information on-line with one or more of the services discussed in #1 above. Keep in mind that the vast majority of foreign women in the FSU, Latin America, etc. are not surfing the Internet with a laptop and DSL connection in their home! Most of the women do not have access or have very limited access to the Internet. In the West we want everything instantly, and we want our communication with these women to be instant, a fact which unethical companies can use to their advantage.
3. Beware of women who will not disclose their personal information to you, either address, E-mail, or phone number. Normally they are corresponding through an agency and, for whatever reason, will not disclose their contact info. This usually means that the man must pay for each contact that is made.
4. Beware of women who come on very strong in their first one or two letters, telling you that they love you, want to come see you, etc. etc. Although international dating tends to progress faster than domestic dating, an "I Love You" within the first letter or two may spell trouble.
5. Beware of women who ask for money for any reason whatsoever. You should immediately report these women to the agency. The amount may seem very small, however she may be requesting that same amount from 20 to 100 people.
6. Beware of women who want you to travel, and pay for them to travel, to a neutral place right away to meet them.
7. Beware of women who tell you that they can obtain a tourist visa. They may say they can obtain the visa for a certain amount of money and ask you to send the money (see#6)
8. Beware of women to whom you are writing that seem unavailable to meet you face to face when you are ready to travel. The excuse given might be something to do with some personal matter, a sudden illness of a family member, or numerous emergency scenarios.
9. When dealing with agencies, check their BBB report, ask for references, and ask how much media attention the company has had. These are all good ways to determine if the agency is legitimate.
10. Trust your instincts. One of the main reasons that a small fraction of women and agencies are able to operate unethically is that many men ignore the warning signs. It's not that they are stupid or particularly naďve; it is because they truly want to believe in what the woman is saying. Whenever there are emotions involved there is a greater risk of fraud. Those emotions can range from love, sorrow, greed, etc, etc. Unfortunately, there are and always will be predators who are willing to capitalize on people who are experiencing one or more of those emotions.
We hope this list has helped, and has given you some insight into some possible problems. Remember, the vast majority of women are sincere and really searching for someone special with whom they can share their life. Please do not look at every foreign woman or every agency with a jaundiced eye. Just keep the points we mentioned above in mind and you should have no problem avoiding unethical women and or agencies. If you have any questions, or experiences of your own that you would like to share, please e-mail us at john@loveme.com
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BigLarry
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posted on 12-03-2002 at 21:52 |
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Anastasia Web Busted
I knew it was only a matter of time until I caught Anastasia web in another deceptive practice. The letters that they send to us from the women on thier website are not sent to us because they have seen our profiles and are genuinely interested in us, but rather cynically sent out by you to generate expensive letters using your service.
I can prove it because they sent me a letter from a woman doctor from the Ukraine. Unbeknownst to then I flew that woman into Kiev in December. Her come on letter generated by Anastasia spam machine to generate fees will get them the Attorney General Investigation that you so justly deserve.
Why can't they just run an honest service? Is that asking too much?
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ken
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posted on 12-11-2002 at 10:36 |
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A Foreign Affair tour update 12/10/2002 Saint petersbrug
25 Guys 8 engagements so far, still several days left. more than 200 girls each social, three social plus.
MTV filmed the socials and tour, should be broadcasting it around January 15th on MTV I will keep you posted. For the UK Groovy Films is doing a 8 part special, keep an eye open for it.
Photo from the right: Kenneth Agee(AFA) Producers Peter (MTV), Elena Agee (AFA) Roseangel and Jenneifer assiant producers(MTV), Lean and Paul of Groovy Films.
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fredo
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posted on 01-17-2003 at 12:34 |
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anastasia
agree.
Bride.ru seems to be ok. Some of the ladies aren't.
On Anastasia I often get a reply that doesn't match well with what I sent. Seems like the ladies who do the translating edit a lot, or just make it up.
Usual safeguards. I ask for address and stuff first letter. then I send a letter via USPost. I put in a self addressed envelope. If no reply in a while. Dump that one.
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John Pido
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posted on 02-06-2003 at 14:56 |
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Advice ????
Can any of you guys give me your thoughts please:
I recently have been dealing with women from the Ukraine via "anastasia". In particular one absolutely gorgeous women. She is very interested she writes (I contacted her first and she responded). She provided her mailing address and asked me to send her a letter with my address, phone, and E-mail. (she said she couldn't provide her phone because it was against the rules of the agency and I could only buy it through the agency............and I understand that).
I have to admit that I am for the most part an attractive (40 years young), professional man with alot to offer such a sweet girl. But, especially after seeing the postings on your site, I am very wary of being "scammed". Although, I realize that with all of the men who probably use anastasia, their are ALWAYS going to be some malcontents.
I did send her a letter (2-5 day mail)......now what should I look for as far as positive or negative signs ??? Is anastasia reputable for the most part or are there many complaints regarding their services ???
Any advice, help, or insight ANYONE can provide would be greatly appreciated !!!!
Thank You,
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Dakota_Ridge
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posted on 02-06-2003 at 15:36 |
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With Love from Voronezh
I thought I'd post something on my experiences with this agency. I'm doing this reluctantly, but I've had a consistent enough experience over a period of about 9 or 10 weeks, and I want to make others aware of what I went through. I would not go so far as accusing this agency of being an outright "scam agency," although anything is possible. To make a long story short, there are very eccentric people in the world who have an axe to grind and this anger will sometimes prompt them to do the strangest things in order to vent itself. What's going on with this agency may or may not be in line with that - it isn't my place to decide that; I only know that the things I've experienced have been very consistent with it. But that doesn't automatically make it true. It may or may not be the case. I have never had any financial problems with WLFV, and I've never had any reason to question that the women I was writing to were real or that their replies were fabricated. Again, anything is possible - I've never had any proof that the women I was writing to were real either. Anyway the problem I've had has been very consistent: I can't keep communications going steadily, and things have formed a very consistent pattern. They have a policy of "free first contact," which is always a huge plus. This is email, not snail mail, and in both cases it took ten full days to receive a reply to my two first contacts. The reason given was "we were moving the office from England to Voronezh." Okay, I can live with that, now things are stable, no more problem, right? Wrong. Things are set up to where all letters for all clients have to go through the owner. And he's out more than he's in. After the move, it was more than a week visiting the UK to where availability was slim to none. A week or so after that it was "5 days out of commission to go to whatever city to renew the visa." Now for the fourth time contact is cut without notice. In the case of both women I was writing to, the letters went EXTREMELY well. They were responsive and as receptive to me as I could have asked for. There were plenty of questions, etc. Everything looked great. And in both cases, exactly when things reached the point where I was ready to fly out there and visit, contact was cut "by the women" with no explanation, no reason, no warning. If this happens once, I'd figure I just picked a woman with issues to write to. But now it's happened twice, exactly the same way both times. No explanation is ever given; they just stop writing. Actually it's the third event; the second time it was claimed that my last reply to a woman was lost and after three weeks (during which time I found it strange that she never contacted the agency to find out what happened to me) it was only then figured out that this was the case. Now contact has been cut a third time and this time I was able to verify that my last reply did reach the woman. So we have a totally consistent pattern here. With this agency, you just can't keep communications going, either with the women or with the agency. They keep disappearing and blowing you off, meanwhile you're out however many dollars you've spent and it's all wasted money. I'm completely convinced that if I were to write to ten other women through this agency, I would get the exact same outcome ten more times. It's a totally consistent pattern. So if you ever consider writing to one of their women, remember that this was my experience and look for the signs. On the surface they are very reputable and very responsible; their prices are very good and they appear to be extremely professional. But I ended up like a car trying to go uphill in a snowstorm - I keep spinning my wheels, go a few feet then slide backward. I just can't build up any momentum to get anywhere. In this case, $70 was put into getting nothing but a lot of anxiety and frustration and stress. During this latest disappearance I'm just letting them go; I'm not chasing them down anymore, I just have to realize what I'm dealing with and take the loss. Maybe the next person will have a different experience, but this was mine. Something to keep in mind.
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Dakota_Ridge
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posted on 02-06-2003 at 16:00 |
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Hi John,
It takes the average person about 5 minutes of research to learn all about Anastasia Web. I tend to be the aggressive type; I don't let circumstances control my life, so I had a little bit of a different result with them. I posted my profile (before I knew any better) and I received 298 replies in 8 days, about half from women who were model material. I challenged them (AW) directly with a very searing email. All complaints go through their general manager, Danny-Boy, who is the most volatile (I'm guessing alcoholic) individual I've ever heard from or about. If you complain, he will tear you a new asshole. He's that level of person; that's how they do PR. Very refined, hah hah. He canceled my account in retaliation, but because of my alluding to filing complaints of internet fraud with the FBI, as well as flooding the forums with bad PR about AW, I ended up having $158 refunded to my credit card - everything I had spent with them. In the process I did get the postal address of one woman I was writing to. I contacted 3 other agencies in Voronezh, trying to get them to track her down and get an email forwarding system set up. I succeeded in doing this. Because she came from Anastasia Web and was just too beautiful to be true, I still didn't believe she was real. So I asked her for a very specific photo - light blue top, white pants, left hand on the right shoulder - something she couldn't possibly have taken before. She did this (which surprised the hell out of me) and pretty much laid to rest any more doubts. So I at least found one woman from Anastasia Web who was real; our letters have continued for two months completely separate from AW and things get better with each letter. She sent me more photos and a Valentine's Day card via postal mail which I received yesterday. So what I would recommend is, AW can be the ultimate resource for establishing initial contact, but like the other guy said (sorry but I can't see his name from the screen I'm writing on) get her postal address in the very first letter and then contact other agencies in her city to see if they can establish email and translation with her. But be careful here as well - agencies are big money in Russia and you'll find cities where every agency is controlled by the same person. It borders on organized crime, if it isn't that flat out. AW casts a wide net and controls a lot of agencies. Try what I did - get a photo where you specify the clothes and the pose. The more you look outside the established system, the better off you'll be. Think outside the box and get creative.
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Patrick
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posted on 02-11-2003 at 12:47 |
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Best fairs to Ukraine
I'm searching for the best fares from the East coast of US to Ukraine, preferably Dnepropetrovsk. Anyone?
thanks!
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larisa
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posted on 03-11-2003 at 12:50 |
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Hi John,
You are wary of being scammed by 'anastasia',aren't you? If you are serious about finding a lady and you have doubts in 'anastasia' why not to visit other dating or marriage agencies which offer special service such as Gold Membership providing with a personal advisor. You can browse different web sites learning about women and select those who you like.Personal advisor can help you with advice which of the ladies are the most suitable to you. She can give you personal characteristic of the ladies as she knows them personally.You 'll avoid of scamming.You can look for services of marriage agencies that have web cam in the office like www.lovemage.com. The web cam is www.lovemage info. You can watch them working in the office, and make sure that the women are real. You can ask a girl who you’d like to communicate with to come to the office, then you'll see if she is real .You can even ask her using ICQ of managers to wave you, to smile to you.
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larisa
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posted on 03-11-2003 at 13:21 |
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According to the latest information, there are some agencies which publish photos of women who never applied to them or even more who are not available. What do they do this for? The answer is rather simple.The aim of such agencies is to get money from men. Usually such agencies sell women's addresses and they do not have any information about these women. You correspond with a woman for a while, and then you fall in love with her and decide to meet with her. For some objective reasons you are supposed to meet in a place somewhere away from her residence (in your country or in the cities of Europe). She asks you to sponsor her travel arrangements. You send her money and then you kiss the money good-bye. It's the last time you hear from her. You can look for services of marriage agencies that have web cam in the office like www.lovemage.com. The web cam is www.lovemage info. You can watch them working in the office, and make sure that the women are real. You can ask a girl who you’d like to communicate with to come to the office, then you'll see if she is real .You can even ask her using ICQ of managers to wave you, to smile to you.
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larisa
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posted on 03-12-2003 at 08:36 |
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paulina
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posted on 03-30-2003 at 20:50 |
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I think that it is definetly not worth it to work with an agency that charges you for openining and sending letters. You may consider paying for posting your profile and/or for buying addresses of the ladies you want to write to if the agency is reputable but definetly not for just reading letters whose origin you can't guess.
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paulina
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posted on 03-30-2003 at 20:55 |
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well, isn't it one of the reasons you guys look for a Russian girl to start with? I agree that most girls posted on dating websites look amazingly great and there are a few good reasons for it:
1. Russian and Ukranian women are truly beautiful.
2. The most beautiful ladies feel like they definetly deserve better than getting bad Russian husbands and continuing to live in a poor country. They feel like they have the most chance to make a better match. You guys are getting "creme de la creme" of the FSU ladies. How lucky!!!
3. Many of those photographs are professional "glamor shots". Not to say that these women are not beautiful but may be they are a bit "more real" looking once you actually meet them. If you are writing to someone for a while, ask them to send you some regular pictures taken in real life. You will be able to see your lady as she really is.
And remember, that beauty is only skin deep anyway. There are many other redeeming qualities these ladies posess. They are usually also smart, educated, independent and sincere.
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paulina
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posted on 03-30-2003 at 20:59 |
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try again!
Larry,
Don't tell me that this is your first love dissapointment? Everyone has those. Learn from it and try again! Good luck!
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Ann
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posted on 04-08-2003 at 17:02 |
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Wow... what a scam
:o This is what I don't see very often... Those girl who posted the picture of "herself" took it in the Ukrainian magazine for women. I live in Ukraine myself and I see this model very often... she's Miss Ukraine 1998 or something like that.
This is not her, that's for sure.
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Ophelia
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posted on 04-22-2003 at 01:40 |
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I spent three years in the States and then I visited my home town. I was shocked to see so many stunning girls around. Mostly because my native town is a students town and girls come from other cities to study. But one would not find that many attractive males. I can't figure it out myself.
In the States however men are rather attractive, and one could meet couples when he is a better looking than her (which is practically impossible in Russia) I agree with Paulina that physical beauty is only one of the factors we should consider. Beauty fades, personality stays.
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Ophelia
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posted on 04-22-2003 at 01:41 |
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Great Forum!
But it lacks participants. Something should be done about it!
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SteveWilliams
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Reply to accusations about With Love From Voronezh
Yet again I meet Chris on a 'scam site'. It seems that this particular gentleman loves to portray himself as a victim. If you know his life story, as unfortunately I do, then you might understand this need...he never felt shy to tell me all about his emotional scars from his childhood and how his ex-wife left him in such a state.
On the Russian Women Guide Chris attacked me in a similar manner. I was however able to defend myself using facts and his own words. Others jumped to my defence including guys that have actually been here to Voronezh with us.
In this forum he seems to have toned down his accusations to a basic....when I was ready to travel, the girls disappeared. This of course is a very serious accusation as it implies that the girls in our agency are not real. The facts are that Chris was not ready to travel, he was waiting for his fortune to roll in from a spam e-mail programme he was launching. The very simple truth is that when one women saw what he was writing, she decided that he was not the type of man that she wanted to meet.
All seemed to be going OK, then he wrote about issues such as the complexes that his abusive mother had left him with. He disclosed that he was once an alcoholic and lived out of his car...I believe you Americans would describe such a person as a 'bum'. Rather unsurprisingly one of these women decided that this was enough information to make her choice....no thanks.
The other one continued with him for a while, but I was becoming concerned about her attitude (I live here in Voronezh now and could see with my own eyes the way she was behaving) It all came to a head when Chris wanted to buy her a present for her birthday, but I advised him against it as I was becoming convinced that her motives were suspect. I removed her from my site for this reason, she was by the way my most popular female client. Mr Malcheski thanked me for this by the way, for looking out for his interests instead of letting things go unchecked.
Mr Malcheski is fond of quoting enormous delays in letters. The first letters he wrote were delayed.... I was driving from the UK to Voronezh and moving my family lock stock to Russia. We are a very small and personal agency, the disadvantage of this is that when I make a life changing move, for a few days things were put on hold. Chris also doesn't seem to recognise that we do not work 7 days a week as he would like and a letter sent on a Friday night from the States cannot be counted as being received on a Friday in Russia... a little thing called a time difference exists Mr Malcheski.
My trip to Latvia to renew my visa in no way limited the reply as Mr Malcheski would have you believe....yes, I did not answer his inane e-mails about his grief at losing his pet, I did not answer his e-mail about his plans for world domination of the spamming market with his new programmes...but letters were sent from women and from men too..... Mr Malcheski seems to think that he should have my undivided attention for his personal problems... sorry but I have a life thank you !!
I would encourage anyone seeing this post to go to the Russian Women Guide where the in depth discussion and a number of posts are available. The moderators, after seeing all the accusations and my defence, took the post out of the scam section as even they realise it was not so.
Mr Malcheski had his money refunded as it was me that took off the client he was writing to, he was not out of pocket. We did out translation work as we were paid for, but I felt bad that it had ended in such a way and I gave him back his money, for which he said he was grateful.
Its very frustrating for me to see this AGAIN. He does not mention the problems he had with another agency, Anastasiweb, that I helped him with. I tracked down the real telephone number and address of a women he was writing to from Voronezh...at my own expense despite his assurances that he would cover the costs…which he never did. The constant letters to me personally about complete drivel and nonsense were distracting and a complete waste of my time... but I answered him as he seemed like a lonely guy with some major issues.
But because one guy is a fruitcake, he can accuse me of running a scam when I try the best I can to run an honest and reputable agency....isn't that what you guys want? If not you can all go to Anastasiaweb and deal with their attitude towards clients. One guy with an axe to grind can accuse me and who do you all believe?
What type of man is my accuser? In his last communication with me he told me that he would bring a girl from Russia to the US on a K-1 eventually, but keep a number of other relationships going as a 'back-up' right up until his wedding day. What a charming person !!!!
I am just glad that me clients saw this before they became the woman that was being lied to.
I am sorry that Mr Malcheski feels aggrieved, but he would feel this way with anything that does not go as he wants. He is not the perfect man as he sees himself, but he cannot understand that a woman may just decide that he is not for her, and is too polite to say....'your a head-case go away !!!!' instead she lets him down gently.... what a terrible thing !!!!!!!!!!
Anyone who wants to contact me directly can do so at wlfvoronezh@vsnab.ru and I will discuss their concerns in detail. I can provide recommendations from men that have actually been here themselves if anyone wishes. But just because one guy screams SCAM !!!, don't automatically believe it, there are two sides to every story.
Steve Williams
With Love From Voronezh
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msmiley
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posted on 05-10-2003 at 20:27 |
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Important Tips The Marriage Agencies Never Tell You
I want to share with you information that the Russian
marriage agencies don't tell you on their web sites.
Many of the dating agencies tout, how young Russian
women are so family oriented and will make wonderful
wives and family partners.
This causes many foreign men to dream about the perfect
family! A family that they have already built up in
their own imagination.
Every man who has seen the Russian dating agency ads
and believes in them completely, has built up in his mind,
and has created his own fantasy, of what a future family
with a Russian women, will be.
If the man's dreams are based on a foundation the
marriage agency has constructed and no on a healthy
dose of common sense, then, most likely the relationship
is at great risk of disappointment and inevitable,
failure
The dating services help bring you together, they
do not help you to stay together !
It is not their job to make your relationship last,
so they don't bother to warn you of the many pitfalls
that can become you and destroy your marriage.
What do you expect of your new Russian bride
and what do you really know about her??
I want to give you an example how you can read into the
marriage agency advertising using a critical eye and
common sense.
Try this:
Go to any marriage dating agency and following their
procedure to join.
Look at Russian women from 21 to 25 years old..
Pay close attention to what these women have written
in their bio s..
Do you see anything in common???
Of course you do..it is very obvious !
Ninety percent if not more of these women have written
that they have a bachelor degree. They just finished or
going to finish their educational requirements.
Ask yourself, WHY?
If all the dating agencies are telling you that all
Russian women are very family oriented and in most
cases live to serve their husband and children,
why would they spend 10 years in school and from 4-7
years at the university, getting a degree ?
Why would these young women spend the biggest part
of their young life studying so hard if they are so
family oriented ?
Why not, instead, go take domestic courses such as
cooking and sewing and child rearing?
Do these women, who have spent the better part of
their young lives dedicated to getting a higher
education, look as women who are preparing themselves
to be housewives and mothers and not have a
professional career???
Yeap...it is look little bit like the opposite ...
if not more...
Here is another question:
Compared to the United States, how many children
are in the average Russian family?
Is it not unusual to see in the average American
family at least three children. The statistical
average is 2.7 children per family. How you get a 7/10th
of child I don t know, but that is the statistic!
In Russia, to see a family with three children would
be quite a shock, absolutely! It is even unusual to
see a Russian family with two children.
When I just came to USA, I was surprised how many
pregnant women I saw on the streets!
In Russia it is very seldom that you will see a pregnant
woman in public. For the last few generations, Russian
couple produce only one child.
By the way, it is a very big problem in Russia.
That each couple produces only one child, does not
allow the population to grow but rather, stagnate.
To be honest, it is not only a problem for Russia,
but for all European countries.
Are you wondering why most Russian couples have only
one child if Russian women are so extremely family
oriented as the dating agencies promise you?
Why don't they want to have more children?
The reason is not because of a difficult economical
situation, in fact you can see many countries that
have much more difficult economic situations and
these poor families have 5-10 children.
In Russia, even wealthy families have only one child.
I can give you many more examples of what the dating
agencies tell you and what you can see on your own.
Be smart enough to learn about the culture of your
future wife's country and about the circumstances
that she grew up in, before you marry her.
It can prevent you from making many mistakes and
help you to build a happy family with an Russian woman.
Marina Smiley is the author of "Your Russian Bride-
The Shocking Truth"
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Rubi
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Couple busted running russian women scam
Here is another example of why you should never send money, never ever, I wish every one would wise up and stop being so foolish.
A women who really likes you will not ask you to send money, nor can she a get a visa if you do send money. If a women ask you to send money this is a big red flag, don't let lust make you blind! If you really want to meet a women go on a group tour with a good reputable company this is the easiest and fastest way to really meet high quality sincere women.
By Alex Roth
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
May 17, 2003
A husband and wife have been indicted in San Diego federal court on charges of using the Internet to sucker lovelorn men into shelling out money for prospective Russian wives and girlfriends who didn't exist.
The case was one of several cited by Attorney General John Ashcroft in a Washington, D.C., news conference yesterday to announce a crackdown on Internet scams.
Ashcroft said federal authorities have charged 135 people with Internet scams in recent months. The crimes range from conducting bogus auctions to setting up fake banking Web sites to collect account numbers.
In the San Diego case, a San Bernardino County couple was arrested earlier this week on charges of using the Internet to pose as Russian women seeking companionship. These fake women would strike up online romances with unsuspecting men and then ask for financial help to travel to the United States to meet them, according a federal indictment issued May 7.
Robert McCoy, 39, and Anna Grountovaia, 31, both of Rancho Cucamonga pleaded not guilty Tuesday in San Diego federal court to wire fraud and other charges. Both are in federal custody here.
Authorities say the couple bilked men around the country, including at least four in San Diego County, out of $600,000 to $1 million.
The U.S. Attorney's Office in San Diego wouldn't comment about the case yesterday. McCoy's lawyer didn't return a phone call seeking comment; Grountovaia's lawyer couldn't be located.
A hearing is scheduled Tuesday to decide whether the couple should remain in custody and, if so, what the bail should be.
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Better Buisiness Beauru is a SCAM
TextText:mad:Don't trust anything you read by the the BBB...a member must pay to join that is all, if you complain they may revoke the paid membership to the beauru but thats the extent of the hand slap on the wrist. The Postmaster General or FCC have more jurisdiction than the BBB.
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tbochene
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SEX AND THE FOREIGN WOMAN
Howdy boys- my name is Tony Bochene. I'm the webmaster of this page. I'm also an author and have written a book about the international romance business. You can check it out at
foreignbrideguide.com.
I've been to Russia many times and am happily married to a lovely Russian gal for three years now. I wrote the book and set up several websites to help the new guys because there is so much mis-information out there about the foreign ladies and how this whole process works.
One of the most common topics that comes up is the sex. It's a normal question when the guys are talking. So with all due respect- and hoping you will show the same respect to these wonderful ladies- I'd like to open the discussion.
How do the foreign ladies feel about sex with a man they just met?
Are they any different than American girls?
Can you trust them to be loyal?
What about prostitution in Russia?
Any questions? Let the discussion begin.
Of course anything distasteful or disrespectful will be deleted so if you're a geek or weirdo don't bother.
Tony B.
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tbochene
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WHY GO? CAN'T SHE COME HERE?
Hello again gentlemen- I'm Tony Bochene the webmaster of this site. This si one the most common questions that comes up when the guys start thinking about a tour. To me it's interesting that anyone would be afraid of a trip overseas. IS it fear or is it laziness?
I think it's a little of both but more of the laziness. Americans in general are into instant gratification, it's programmed into our society. Everything is designed to be quick easy fun... but usually isn't. That attitude is an advertising scam and too many of us fall for it.
So enter the international romance dating business. many guys would like to think they can just sit in their apartment at three in the morning and pick out a girl they like send her a few bucks and she'll appear on their door step. Sorry boys it just doesn't work like that, and if it did you wouldn't appreciate the woman and wouldn't try very hard at the relationship. Right? As soon as things got tough you'd be thinking; "Hey I if she gives me any crap I can just get out the ole credit card and "buy" another girl."
I think you see where I'm going with this. This is something different, something new and exciting that may change your life forever if you have the time and patience to meet the right girl.
But what about the money?
Oh co'mon. That computer you are using to surf the net in search of the perfect woman cost more than a trip. So what are you waiting for? How long do you live your life in lonely silence?
Here is the bottom line and I hope you will listen because most of the successful scams are based on your laziness... WITH VERY FEW EXCEPTIONS, THE WOMEN CAN NOT COME HERE TO SEE YOU. THEY CAN NOT GET A VISA NO MATTER WHAT THEY TELL YOU. THE ONES WHO CLAIM TH | | | |
