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Author: NatalieSupport Subject: my experience with www.natashaclub.com and www.online-dating-ukraine.com
michaelvanvlimmeren
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posted on 04-08-2009 at 15:59 Reply With Quote Report Post to Moderator
my experience with www.natashaclub.com and www.online-dating-ukraine.com

I want to warn you for this agency.

I made a profile at online-dating-ukraine.com and in 2 days I received almost 200 letters from unbelievable pretty girls (almost all between 18 and 25, and really extremely pretty). I am 41 years old myself, and I was very surprised to receive so many letters in 2 days.

I contacted 8 of these girls at another website. Something like a Russian Facebook. With name and birthdate I found them easily. All these girls were surprised I contacted them. They never gave permission to use their info and photos on the website of Natashaclub / Ukraine dating!

As a man you have to pay if you want to read the emails written by the girls. Natashaclub is making these profiles and without permission or knowledge of the girls they start writing to the men, who have to pay to read these letters. The girls never hear anything, all letters are written by the agency!

This agency is a big SCAM!

With google I found more info about them on http://www.agencyscams.com/Why/1st.html

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Ladysearch
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posted on 05-28-2010 at 06:44 Reply With Quote Report Post to Moderator
I agree

My friend, i support you about it, as i cooperated with natashaclub 2 years, now i am helping people meet each other without dating agencies which are 100% scam! You are exactly right, dating agencies just thinking about taking your money, but not about your happiness.
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posted on 05-03-2011 at 09:39 Reply With Quote Report Post to Moderator
online-dating-ukraine

what a fake. i saw on online-dating-ukraine so many sweet, cute, pretty, attractive girls and ladies and was wondering if this could be true. No, it is not. Before you can read any message you have to buy credits. You just get the address, which obviously does not exist after writingat least 13 letters (each one you are paying a raising amount of money) and than it depends on the ladies, if they want to permit to give out the address. BUT, there is no lady behind and so, you would never get the address. What a shame:D
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posted on 06-09-2011 at 14:49 Reply With Quote Report Post to Moderator
Natasha Club

I have pretty much abandoned Natasha Club for Dream-Marriage.com I don't know how many women with whom I first "Talked" on NC and then found them again on DM and they said they had never met me before. This has happened more than 10 times. I copied our correspondences from NC and showed them and they were like, I never wrote this. Then they went to NC and demanded that their photos stop being used there.

Oh yeah, all of them women from Dream-marriage, I saw them on cam so I could identify them.

My suggestion for dating sites has now changed. You can find a cute babe on site and then, you need for find her on vkontakte.ru. You need to get her name in Russian and then find her again on odnoklassniki.ru the latter site is an utter gold mine! After that, you can talk with her on your dating site however, send her a letter to her social networking site. If she does not respond to you, drop her. All of the women with whom I am serious talk with me both on social networking and the dating sites. This eliminates a lot of the fakes out there. However, it won't eliminate a woman who only wants a green card. My test for that usually is that I tell a woman I want children and..... I won't use protection so is she willing to have my child and oh yeah, I want to move to Ukraine. The real woman are down with that.
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posted on 06-25-2011 at 01:45 Reply With Quote Report Post to Moderator
Natasha Club is Totally Fraudulent

Guys,

I have had some experience with this site. It is totally fraudulent, stear well clear. It is possible that some profiles are genuine but in general they are not.

The system encourages you to pay for letters from attractive girls. Unfortunately, these letters are not written by the girls but by the administration (probably men!!). I received and paid for many letters through this system but by chance met a number of girls through other agencies and discovered that they had never heard of me !!!

In one case, NatashaClub actually provided contact details to one girl in Moscow who I had corresponded with. She told me she had never received or written a single letter from me.

I contacted the management of the site and (surprise, surprise) they simply ignored me.

I think the best approach is to trust your instincts. If it seems too good to be true, it probably isn't !!!

Best, Clark
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posted on 08-14-2011 at 16:37 Reply With Quote Report Post to Moderator
online dating ukraine

The parent company for this website is First international which is based in the USA so if the site is a scammer then contact your local law enforcement agencies and complain to them. because american business are not outside the law and the Ukrainians also want to clean out scammers.
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posted on 08-17-2011 at 17:31 Reply With Quote Report Post to Moderator
Were reported...

Were reported at the Police in Kiev, the Agencies in question.
We await events otherwise we boycott the European Champion-
ships. In case you want to join to the undersigned for further complaints, contact me for the address of the Police. Thanks...
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posted on 12-26-2011 at 12:44 Reply With Quote Report Post to Moderator
NatashaClub

A mí me estafaron en Natashaclub, me dijeron que tenía que tener 15 mensajes abiertos y pagar 50 euros para poder intercambiar direcciones de correo electrónico, cuando por fin abrí 15 mensajes y pague los 50 euros, el perfil de la chica con la que hablaba fue eliminado y obviamente presente un reclamo al webmaster, y ellos me dijeron que cada chica es libre de eliminar su perfil cuando ellas quieran, y que ellos no podían obligar a la chica a hablar conmigo.
Yo los acuse de estafadores, y de que la chica no existía, que todo era una estafa del sitio, ellos terminaron bloqueando mi cuenta, cree otra cuenta con otra dirección de correo y puede contactar nuevamente con ellos a través de su ayuda online, y los acuse de denunciarlos por estafa, que yo pague 350 euros abriendo los 15 mensajes mas los 50 euros que supuestamente era para un intercambia de direcciones de correo,
Entonces ellos me enviaron una dirección de correo electrónico de la supuesta chica, para que pueda hablar con ella directamente, la supuesta chica enamorada durante los 15 mensajes, de repente había desaparecido. Yo le envié un correo a su supuesta dirección de correo, y ella me respondió, con una carta que decía que ella no podía seguir hablando conmigo después de que yo hiciera tanto escándalo con su agencia matrimonial, que ella quería casarse conmigo pero después de este tipo de reclamaciones no podía seguir el contacto conmigo y que por favor no le escriba más porque de lo contrario me denunciaría por acoso.
Cuando me fije la ip del correo electrónico era el mismo que el del webmaster del sito natshaclub.
http://www.natashaclub.com tienen otros sitios, con otros nombres pero que al final es el mismo sitio, regístrense con una cuenta cualquiera y prueben de poner el mismo nombre de usuario y contraseña en los otros sitios y comprobaran que accederán al sistema de la misma manera, o prueben de buscar una chica sin registrarse por su número id en cualquiera de esos sitios, la encontraran, porque todos esos sitios son el mismo:
http://www.russian-women-personals.com
http://www.1st-international.com
http://www.single-baltic-lady.com
http://www.brides-from.ru
http://www.allianceinter.com
http://www.online-dating-ukraine.com
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posted on 05-05-2012 at 01:23 Reply With Quote Report Post to Moderator
Onlinedating ukraine, Dreamarriage just fake?

I find this beautiful girl on onlinedating ukraine named CuteElena1. Then i found this site i found the same girl at dreammarriage just called Elena.

So its no use for me to contact this girl cause its all fake?

All those sites are just bullshit?
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michaelvanvlimmeren
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posted on 05-05-2012 at 02:36 Reply With Quote Report Post to Moderator
Online Dating Ukraine

Most sites are scams... I did some research some years ago and discovered the way Online Dating Ukraine works.

There are some photographers, studios. Girls go there to make photos. These are usually young pretty girls who want photos for a model-portfolio. Without permission of these girls the photos are posted on dating sites like Online Dating Ukraine. If you start correspondence with them you are not writing with the girls you see on the photos but with students wanting to make some extra money to pay for their education It's just a job for them... They get money from the agancy for each contact they make, for each letter they write.

They try to do everything to keep your attention, so you buy more "credits" to send and receive letters.

I discovered this by writing this girls on another website called vkontakte.ru (a Russian facebook). They didn't know their photos were on a dating website. The only thing these girls had in common was that they made some photos for a model-portfolio at the same photography studio.

Online Dating Ukraine is part of a network called 1st International Marriage Network. SItes in this network exchange profiles... If you Google for 1st International Marriage Network you will quickly find their scam websites; Alliance International, Russian Brides Club, Natasha club, Alice Agency, Love Formula, Alena Marriage Agency, From Russia with Bride etc etc.

I am only surprised this scam is going on for such a long time already.

If you are really interested in writing girls I would only write to girls who also have amateur photos on their profile. Photos of them in daily life, at home etc. Not only professional made studio photos.


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posted on 07-15-2012 at 10:49 Reply With Quote Report Post to Moderator
Online Dating Ukraine

I have made the same experiences as those described here.
But I have made an interesting discovery today!!!!!
A Anti Scammer site! Have a look who operates it.
Try to enter that Natascha Club a fake is!!
Do not be surprised!


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posted on 02-25-2013 at 19:21 Reply With Quote Report Post to Moderator
Scam

I used online-dating-ukraine over some years under two different accounts and came to realise that most of the "girls"were scams. When I suggested, in a very gentle way, to one girl, as a concern I had, I was shut out for several weeks.


A range of things have happened which have convinced me of this which I am happy to go into if you write to mr...

I would find another site rather use this one if you don't want to be ripped off.

If its too good to be true it probably is...
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posted on 01-29-2018 at 05:29 Reply With Quote Report Post to Moderator
NOT a SCAM



I made a profile at online-dating-ukraine.com and in 2 days I received almost 200 letters from unbelievable pretty girls (almost all between 18 and 25, and really extremely pretty). I am 41 years old myself, and I was very surprised to receive so many letters in 2 days.

I contacted 8 of these girls at another website. Something like a Russian Facebook. With name and birthdate I found them easily. All these girls were surprised I contacted them. They never gave permission to use their info and photos on the website of Natashaclub / Ukraine dating!

As a man you have to pay if you want to read the emails written by the girls. Natashaclub is making these profiles and without permission or knowledge of the girls they start writing to the men, who have to pay to read these letters. The girls never hear anything, all letters are written by the agency!

This agency is a big SCAM!


' Dear Sir, I am sorry that you feel this way but the site it NOT scam. The absolute majority of profiles are submitted by local dating agencies, where girls are required to produce their national passport so it is absolutely not possible that "they never gave permission to use their info and photos on the website". A 18-25 year old gir5l can easily be interested in a 40 -year old man. However, most members join the site because they want a safe environment where their contact details and personal pages will be released only when they are ready and they will not be pursued and questioned by strangers.
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